If you aren’t clear about your ideas, goals, and background it creates an opening for people to speak for you. When we tell people one of our goals is the establishment of a Luciferian religious commune, sometimes we get raised eyebrows. Because “prepping”, communal living, and Luciferianism are all poorly defined, largely misunderstood, and in some cases represented by unsavory characters, it’s important that we be clear what we’re about so that disingenuous or merely ignorant people aren’t allowed to define us.
Q: Are you a doomsday cult?
A: No. This is probably the laziest thing people say because it’s the lowest-hanging cultural fruit. Apart from being a relatively small and marginalized religious group, nothing about our organization is structured like a cult. We also don’t believe in a specific “doomsday” or civilization-disrupting event; our view is that contemporary civlization, driven by the slow collapse of capitalism and its tenets, are in decline, and that this sort of degredation is only going to get worse in our lifetimes, compounded by the consequences of climate change.
Q: Are you doomsday preppers?
A: No. We want our members to be prepared for evidence-based disasters like wildfires, weather events, and civil unrest, the likes of which we’ve already seen all over the country in the last few years. Our preparation ethos revolves around resource sovereignty and communal stability however, not conspiracy theory-driven irrational hoarding. For the most part, we think people who identify as doomsday preppers are incredibly selfish, shortsighted, and dumb.
Q: What is Luciferianism?
A: Superficially, it’s a religious practice centered around Lucifer, the fallen angel from Abrahamic religion (we consider Catholicism our direct theological predecessor, but have no connection to it beyond theology). However, as a coherent religion, Luciferianism is a mess, due in part to a long history of grifters and random occultists speaking from authority with no real basis. We have established our ministry in part to clean up this mess and offer something lucid and evidence-based to people seeking Lucifer’s light. The best place to find out what we believe is to take it from us, starting here.
Q: Don’t only weirdos live in communes?
A: Maybe! That has a lot to do with what you think is weird. Religious communes are incredibly common, and most people don’t think much about the Christian and Pagan ones that exist and have functioned peacefully for decades. The only reason ours is provocative is because it’s the only serious Luciferian commune that we’re aware of, and because people don’t understand our religion that well, they’re very comfortable guessing and projecting what it might be like, which is guaranteed to be more scandalous and interesting than the reality. Conversely, one might say that if you examine habits and behaviors, that the real weirdos live in suburbs. Or metropolises. Or anywhere else you don’t like.
Q: What does a religious commune look like?
A: Much like any other commune! Most of the resources and facilities are dedicated to fulfilling everyone’s physical needs; Clean, quality housing, food, drinkable water. Spaces for religious fellowship, dedicated spaces for learning and art. Crops. Livestock. Superficially it might look like an Amish community, but with more visible technology, since we don’t have a religious aversion to that.
Q: So you aren’t obsessed with “going off the grid”?
A: No, not really. We think it’s important to revive and master skills necessary for the continuity of life in the event that major systems are disrupted (thinking back to 2021 Texas power crisis), and that’s part of the point of our project here; to develop these skills in a practical setting so that they can be shared with people who need them and haven’t had the opportunity under capitalism to learn and practice these complex sets of interrelated skills. But our commune will have wi-fi. We aren’t running away from technology, just preparing to have to do without it if necessary.
Q: Do you know what you’re doing?
A: We try! Our communal planning reflects our community; we have Ivy League educated specialists planning alongside experts with practical, lifelong experience. Input is merit-based, skills are demonstrable, and our plans always conform to our best understanding. We have people who are seasoned farmers, medical professionals, experts in construction and residential planning, security, textiles and fiber arts, livestock management, plant-based medicine and more! A self-sufficient community is a complex web, and it takes time to find the right people, but we feel confident enough in our planning to go all in!
Q: Isn’t running away to a commune just escapism?
A: Only if you’re doing it to escape. On the contrary, we think that removing yourself from the crushing, exploitative grip of capitalism is vital to having the personal resources to actually make anything better. They don’t give out awards for being worked to death in the suburbs while trying to do activism.
We harbor no illusions that we will be completely free from the effects of climate change (all we can do is mitigate our risks as well as we can), social unrest, fascism, or anything else. These are endemic problems that cannot be escaped. Rather, our goal is to master removing the leverage that is used to control the poor and working class through the manipulation of their base needs, and develop skills and best practices that can easily be taught and demonstrated to anyone who wants them.
We believe that socioeconomic conditions, climate change, and the rise of fascism and populism already create misery and danger, and that the wealth extraction class is only going to tighten its grip on resources and treat the working class like tax cattle more and more as things become difficult for everyone. The covid pandemic didn’t really give us a lot of faith in the interests of the government or wealth extraction class, or even in the working and poor classes to participate in their own safekeeping.
We think that while those forces can’t be escaped, we can create sanctuary for like-minded people to live in peace and dignity, while providing meaningful resistance through resource independence and community defense. Those things take time, resources and commitment to build, and by the time you’re looking for escape, it’s far too late to start.
Q: Isn’t this just some kind of roleplay?
A: Unfortunately, a lot of people like to throw around “Let’s just start a commune!” as a response to an unpleasant news item or uncomfortable social event, without having any real seriousness or background. We understand that impulse as expressing a desire to not be forced to participate in this sham of a society. The reality of starting a sustainable commune without inadvertently harming your residents, violating laws, or creating an ecological disaster through poor planning is complex, difficult, and requires a lot of expertise. It isn’t something a handful of people can just decide to guess their way through together. Well, they can, and do, and they end up in a mess.
That’s why we’ve spent years learning, studying, practicing, and gathering people with the right expertise. We are real Luciferians, and really serious about the reality of communal living. No one could look at our collective education, work, and experience and accuse us of roleplay even if they don’t agree with some of our specific conclusions.
Q: Don’t you think you’re being unrealistic?
A: Some people think we’re being unrealistic, but aren’t nearly as invested in the realism of the thousands of communes that already exist. If we thought we were being unrealistic, we wouldn’t be doing this. We probably know more about what it takes to actually set up and operate a Luciferian religious commune than anyone you’re likely to encounter.
Q: What about [X thing I think is important and assume you haven’t accounted for]?
A: We already live in contemporary Western society under capitalism and we aren’t trying to recreate it in the woods. A lot of things that you might think we’ll lack, like healthcare, many of us already don’t have reliable access to. We won’t have less access than we do now by creating alternatives, we’ll simply have something to fall back on. Losses in areas like science, medicine, and dentistry will be staggering for everyone, should things come to that, and we won’t be able to recreate them as they are now. But that doesn’t mean that doing the best you can isn’t worth doing.
We’re probably more aware than most the ways that things will be difficult, what will be lost if things crumble enough. Chances are we’ve already had a lot of meetings about how to deal with that thing you think we haven’t thought of. The stakes are high, and these are our lives, so I assure you, we aren’t doing less thinking or worrying than you are.